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		<title>By: Still &#8220;Synergizing&#8221; &#8230; &#171; Lindly&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Still &#8220;Synergizing&#8221; &#8230; &#171; Lindly&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] page 427 ! of her  Polka Dot Creations blog Lisa Clarke has posted her observations and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Polka Dot Creations &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Holy relapse, Batman!</title>
		<link>http://www.lisaclarke.net/2008/02/24/blogging-under-the-influence/comment-page-1/#comment-8545</link>
		<dc:creator>Polka Dot Creations &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Holy relapse, Batman!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] noticed Susan talk about it over at Polymer Clay Notes earlier this month.  In light of all of our recent chatting about artsy things around here, I thought it might make for a good addition to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lisa Clarke</title>
		<link>http://www.lisaclarke.net/2008/02/24/blogging-under-the-influence/comment-page-1/#comment-8508</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 05:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great response!  I&#039;ve always felt a little outclassed in art-related discussions, mainly because I am not aiming to sell in museums or high-end craft shows.  Rarely is it considered just as valid to choose a less &quot;prestigious&quot; market, or to choose not to sell at &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt;.  I like your perspective on this.  It makes me feel a little less ill-equipped to consider myself an artist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great response!  I&#8217;ve always felt a little outclassed in art-related discussions, mainly because I am not aiming to sell in museums or high-end craft shows.  Rarely is it considered just as valid to choose a less &#8220;prestigious&#8221; market, or to choose not to sell at <i>all</i>.  I like your perspective on this.  It makes me feel a little less ill-equipped to consider myself an artist.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Clarke</title>
		<link>http://www.lisaclarke.net/2008/02/24/blogging-under-the-influence/comment-page-1/#comment-8507</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 05:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Kim - in the grand scheme of things, who really cares what we call it?  It&#039;s serving a purpose of self-expression for the person who creates it, and bringing beauty to those who appreciate it.

And you know, I think you are right about my voice.  The more we all chat about this issue, the more I&#039;m starting to realize that what I have been referring to as &quot;finding my niche&quot; was really the point in my work where my voice began to come through.

One of the things I&#039;m thinking I need to do is brush up on the lingo.  I got a bit of a start with Julia Sober&#039;s seminar on design, but I&#039;d like to learn a little more.  Conversations like this would be a lot easier with the right vocabulary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Kim &#8211; in the grand scheme of things, who really cares what we call it?  It&#8217;s serving a purpose of self-expression for the person who creates it, and bringing beauty to those who appreciate it.</p>
<p>And you know, I think you are right about my voice.  The more we all chat about this issue, the more I&#8217;m starting to realize that what I have been referring to as &#8220;finding my niche&#8221; was really the point in my work where my voice began to come through.</p>
<p>One of the things I&#8217;m thinking I need to do is brush up on the lingo.  I got a bit of a start with Julia Sober&#8217;s seminar on design, but I&#8217;d like to learn a little more.  Conversations like this would be a lot easier with the right vocabulary!</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Dunn</title>
		<link>http://www.lisaclarke.net/2008/02/24/blogging-under-the-influence/comment-page-1/#comment-8485</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy Dunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leave it to Kim to beat me to it!  By the time I read through all these comments, all I wanted to say was, you do have a voice.  Your work is dsitinctive.  You are inspired by the fabrics, or color palettes.  How you then interpret that inspiration is distinctly YOU! 
Whether or not your work is finished and refined to the nth degree, that is another question, seperate from voice.  And, your insight as to whether the market you have built for your work will want to pay for the added labor that might be involved is a good one.  We all need to look at those tradeoffs for the choices we make for our business.  
There are many possible models for being a working artist.  Sometimes it does not even involve selling your work.  The best one, is the one that best fits your life and your skills and interests.  The model that Kathleen Dustin, or Christie Freisen, or Judy Belcher follows are all unique to them and what they enjoy.   The gold standard is not one model.  The gold standard is what works best for us.  If we want to do certain shows, or have our work in certain galleries, there are expectations about workmanship, design, etc.  But not everyone can, or wants to follow that path.  Getting into a show like the Smithsonian Craft Show is tougher than getiting into Harvard.  But there are plenty of other ways to find a way to integrate craft into a person&#039;s life and fulfill that need to create something beautiful.

&lt;small&gt;See what Judy Dunn has been blogging about: &lt;a href=&#039;http://judydunn.blogspot.com/2008/02/owning-up.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Owning Up&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leave it to Kim to beat me to it!  By the time I read through all these comments, all I wanted to say was, you do have a voice.  Your work is dsitinctive.  You are inspired by the fabrics, or color palettes.  How you then interpret that inspiration is distinctly YOU!<br />
Whether or not your work is finished and refined to the nth degree, that is another question, seperate from voice.  And, your insight as to whether the market you have built for your work will want to pay for the added labor that might be involved is a good one.  We all need to look at those tradeoffs for the choices we make for our business.<br />
There are many possible models for being a working artist.  Sometimes it does not even involve selling your work.  The best one, is the one that best fits your life and your skills and interests.  The model that Kathleen Dustin, or Christie Freisen, or Judy Belcher follows are all unique to them and what they enjoy.   The gold standard is not one model.  The gold standard is what works best for us.  If we want to do certain shows, or have our work in certain galleries, there are expectations about workmanship, design, etc.  But not everyone can, or wants to follow that path.  Getting into a show like the Smithsonian Craft Show is tougher than getiting into Harvard.  But there are plenty of other ways to find a way to integrate craft into a person&#8217;s life and fulfill that need to create something beautiful.</p>
<p><small>See what Judy Dunn has been blogging about: <a href='http://judydunn.blogspot.com/2008/02/owning-up.html' rel="nofollow">Owning Up</a></small></p>
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		<title>By: More Insights and POV on Synergy &#171; Musings from the Moonroom</title>
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		<dc:creator>More Insights and POV on Synergy &#171; Musings from the Moonroom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 04:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve gotten a stack of impressive comments since my reply to your post and I have to say that in itself is a sign of the times and changes in even this, the discussion of art, craft.

When you can take the discussion home and extend it in an honest voice to your peers, your customers and a further audience and have some of the current Big Voices in the field answer, it&#039;s interesting. It moves the discussion of Art out of the gallery and classroom and stuffy wine and cheese environment into a place that is visible and easy to access.

I also appreciate that everyone has said some of the same things but that every single poster has had a different take on your original post, even the ones who heard or were closer to the initial session. It is like the game of telephone as Seth said.

&lt;small&gt;See what Elaine has been blogging about: &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.tooaquarius.com/2008/02/21/more-experimenting/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;More Experimenting&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve gotten a stack of impressive comments since my reply to your post and I have to say that in itself is a sign of the times and changes in even this, the discussion of art, craft.</p>
<p>When you can take the discussion home and extend it in an honest voice to your peers, your customers and a further audience and have some of the current Big Voices in the field answer, it&#8217;s interesting. It moves the discussion of Art out of the gallery and classroom and stuffy wine and cheese environment into a place that is visible and easy to access.</p>
<p>I also appreciate that everyone has said some of the same things but that every single poster has had a different take on your original post, even the ones who heard or were closer to the initial session. It is like the game of telephone as Seth said.</p>
<p><small>See what Elaine has been blogging about: <a href='http://www.tooaquarius.com/2008/02/21/more-experimenting/' rel="nofollow">More Experimenting</a></small></p>
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		<title>By: Kim Cavender</title>
		<link>http://www.lisaclarke.net/2008/02/24/blogging-under-the-influence/comment-page-1/#comment-8454</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Cavender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa, this is an excellent topic and it&#039;s become quite an interesting discussion.  I think it depends, like so many other things in life, on each individual&#039;s perception as to whether or not something speaks to them or evokes some sort of emotion.  Art is purely subjective and the process of creating is not a static one.  If we choose, we have the power to improve our pieces by studying design or color or mastering a new technique or improving our finishing or a thousand other things.  

It seems as if what&#039;s most important is that we take pleasure in the process of creating things that we&#039;re proud of.  Not every pair of earrings has to be &quot;art&quot;.  They can just be a nicely made pair of earrings that you feel wonderful wearing and that&#039;s okay.  I think the WOW factor that you spoke about comes from a number of things - good craftsmanship, excellent design, good color sense, innovation, mastery of material, etc. AND our own unique perception of what we consider these things to be.  What WOWS me may not necessarily WOW you.  So, I guess what I&#039;m trying to say is that the WOW factor is just as subjective as anything else.  

All of us, from the timid beginners to the most accomplished and pompous egomaniacs can count on one thing. . .  not everyone is going to like and/or appreciate what we&#039;ve created.  

Just for the record, I think you do have a style and I see your &quot;voice&quot; coming through in your art.  It&#039;s fun and colorful and wonderful.  If you feel as if your finishing could be better, that&#039;s an easy thing to change, just as you said.  

Sometimes I think the whole art thing is taken WAY too seriously.  Whether you earn a living at this or not, you can&#039;t lose your perspective on what it ultimately is :  a means of personal self-expression.  I have a huge appreciation for beautiful and well-made things but realistically, none of that is going to cure cancer or feed multitudes of starving people or solve the healthcare crisis in our country.  It&#039;s just art.  My all time favorite quote from Picasso:
&quot;Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.&quot;  
If that&#039;s how the creative process makes you feel, then you&#039;re doing something right.

&lt;small&gt;See what Kim Cavender has been blogging about: &lt;a href=&#039;http://kimcavender.blogspot.com/2008/02/im-off-to-get-synergized.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I&#039;m off to get SYNERGIZED!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa, this is an excellent topic and it&#8217;s become quite an interesting discussion.  I think it depends, like so many other things in life, on each individual&#8217;s perception as to whether or not something speaks to them or evokes some sort of emotion.  Art is purely subjective and the process of creating is not a static one.  If we choose, we have the power to improve our pieces by studying design or color or mastering a new technique or improving our finishing or a thousand other things.  </p>
<p>It seems as if what&#8217;s most important is that we take pleasure in the process of creating things that we&#8217;re proud of.  Not every pair of earrings has to be &#8220;art&#8221;.  They can just be a nicely made pair of earrings that you feel wonderful wearing and that&#8217;s okay.  I think the WOW factor that you spoke about comes from a number of things &#8211; good craftsmanship, excellent design, good color sense, innovation, mastery of material, etc. AND our own unique perception of what we consider these things to be.  What WOWS me may not necessarily WOW you.  So, I guess what I&#8217;m trying to say is that the WOW factor is just as subjective as anything else.  </p>
<p>All of us, from the timid beginners to the most accomplished and pompous egomaniacs can count on one thing. . .  not everyone is going to like and/or appreciate what we&#8217;ve created.  </p>
<p>Just for the record, I think you do have a style and I see your &#8220;voice&#8221; coming through in your art.  It&#8217;s fun and colorful and wonderful.  If you feel as if your finishing could be better, that&#8217;s an easy thing to change, just as you said.  </p>
<p>Sometimes I think the whole art thing is taken WAY too seriously.  Whether you earn a living at this or not, you can&#8217;t lose your perspective on what it ultimately is :  a means of personal self-expression.  I have a huge appreciation for beautiful and well-made things but realistically, none of that is going to cure cancer or feed multitudes of starving people or solve the healthcare crisis in our country.  It&#8217;s just art.  My all time favorite quote from Picasso:<br />
&#8220;Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.&#8221;<br />
If that&#8217;s how the creative process makes you feel, then you&#8217;re doing something right.</p>
<p><small>See what Kim Cavender has been blogging about: <a href='http://kimcavender.blogspot.com/2008/02/im-off-to-get-synergized.html' rel="nofollow">I&#8217;m off to get SYNERGIZED!</a></small></p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I probably misquoted the point I was trying to get across.  I didn&#039;t mean that art has to tell a &lt;i&gt;specific&lt;/i&gt; story so much as have a &quot;voice.&quot;  There&#039;s a difference.

My trouble is that I don&#039;t really know how you can make a piece with exquisite craftsmanship that &lt;i&gt;doesn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; have a voice, or doesn&#039;t jump out and grab someone.  It seems to me that a well-made piece is going to do that by default.  Which is why I am confused ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I probably misquoted the point I was trying to get across.  I didn&#8217;t mean that art has to tell a <i>specific</i> story so much as have a &#8220;voice.&#8221;  There&#8217;s a difference.</p>
<p>My trouble is that I don&#8217;t really know how you can make a piece with exquisite craftsmanship that <i>doesn&#8217;t</i> have a voice, or doesn&#8217;t jump out and grab someone.  It seems to me that a well-made piece is going to do that by default.  Which is why I am confused <img src='http://www.lisaclarke.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I don&#039;t sell on the gallery circuit either.  And at this stage of my life, I don&#039;t really know that I want to.  Like I said in my reply to Diana below, the more work you put into a piece to elevate it to art, the more expensive it has to be.  You run the risk of pricing yourself right out of the market that you are comfortable in.

Right now my sales are mostly word-of-mouth around town, and a couple of local vendor/craft fairs.  These are not opportunities to sell $100 earrings.  But pretty things that are affordable?  Yep, they sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I don&#8217;t sell on the gallery circuit either.  And at this stage of my life, I don&#8217;t really know that I want to.  Like I said in my reply to Diana below, the more work you put into a piece to elevate it to art, the more expensive it has to be.  You run the risk of pricing yourself right out of the market that you are comfortable in.</p>
<p>Right now my sales are mostly word-of-mouth around town, and a couple of local vendor/craft fairs.  These are not opportunities to sell $100 earrings.  But pretty things that are affordable?  Yep, they sell.</p>
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